jibs and winches questions

i am trying to do maintenance on my bronze barient 21 two speed
primaries and can’t get them apart. they have an allen head screw in
the handle socket which i am sure is the key thing, but it won’t budge.
before i break it off, does this turn the normal-righty tighty, lefty
loosey-way? i suspect i need to secure the drum to get it out, any
suggestions besides a pipe wrench which i fear will mar the drum?
also the sailmaker tells me my yankee is pretty well shot. the former
owner had installed a profurl furler and never put a suncover on the
sail, so the leech and foot are eaten up by uv and quite friable.
these areas can be chopped off, but then all 3 corners need to be
rebuilt, the sail will be smaller and the cost is about half of a new
sail. it is 15 years old already so i think it is time to replace it.
i spoke to roger about headsails and am interested in finding out what
others are using. the boat is new to me, so i have only 2 hours
experience sailing her at purchase and need some more input as to
appropriate size jib. it seems that the choice is between a yankee
size vs. a lapper.
thanks to all
john churchill
bcc #65
“BUCEPHALUS”

Hi John

Don’t use a pipe wrench, just secure one of your sheets froward wrap it
around the drum three or four turns tightly and cleat it aft. Do not use the
self tailing cleat on the top. You might have to put a little pressure on it
with the wench handle to get it tight enough to hold. Careful. That should
secure the drum while you wrestle with the allen screw. Beg, Borrow or
purchase a hand impact wrench (They do not cost too much, last a life time
and work 200 miles off shore). It looks like a heavy screw driver. You put
a bit in the working end that fits the allen head screw, make sure the bit is
seated squarely and firmly in the allen head screw in your wench and rap the
top of the impact wrench sharply with a hammer. That should do it. As soon
as the allen screw is free, but before you try to take it out, take any
substantial pressure off of the line securing your wench drum. Unless your
working with propane tanks righty tighty is usually the way to go.

Good Luck.

Rob

John, So how did you take your Barient winches apart. I haven’t
figured it out. Kate

— In bcc@y…, “John Churchill” <jchurchill@e…> wrote:

i am trying to do maintenance on my bronze barient 21 two speed
primaries and can’t get them apart. they have an allen head screw
in
the handle socket which i am sure is the key thing, but it won’t
budge.
before i break it off, does this turn the normal-righty tighty,
lefty
loosey-way? i suspect i need to secure the drum to get it out, any
suggestions besides a pipe wrench which i fear will mar the drum?
also the sailmaker tells me my yankee is pretty well shot. the
former
owner had installed a profurl furler and never put a suncover on the
sail, so the leech and foot are eaten up by uv and quite friable.
these areas can be chopped off, but then all 3 corners need to be
rebuilt, the sail will be smaller and the cost is about half of a
new
sail. it is 15 years old already so i think it is time to replace
it.
i spoke to roger about headsails and am interested in finding out
what
others are using. the boat is new to me, so i have only 2 hours
experience sailing her at purchase and need some more input as to
appropriate size jib. it seems that the choice is between a yankee
size vs. a lapper.
thanks to all
john churchill
bcc #65
“BUCEPHALUS”

the winches come apart with that set screw in the hanndle socket. it
is a standard right hand thread. removing that allows you to lift
off the drum, and get at the innards. i do not recall any parts that
want to fly out, but there are springs and pawls in there that do not
float. i generally try to tear them apart when i am on the hard,
figuring that i have at least some chance of finding parts in the
gravel and none when they are on the bottom. if you have to do it
afloat, one trick is to take a cardboard box and cut a hole in the
bottom as big as the winch base so that any flying parts are
captured. the gap below the bulwarks that is so great at freeing the
decks of standing water also works great relieving the decks of small
tools and loose parts.
good luck, it is not too hard.
john