Lantern Boards for BCC

Has anyone installed lantern boards on the shrouds to mount navigation lights?  I am building a set of boards for IDUNA.  The main challenge is the lower shrouds are not in the same plane, i.e. the forward shroud is inside of the aft shroud in relation to the centerline of the boat.  This presents a problem with respect to the size of the cleats which connect the boards to the shrouds.  I will not discuss the boring details now.
 
I know the company now mounts the port and starboard navigation lights on the mast.  Because the forward sails obscure the lights, I do not believe this arrangement meets the COLOREGS standards.  I know I raised this question before.  Does anyone have a better solution?
Rod
I have a tricolor on mast top.  Also I mounted some very nice brass port,stbd and stern lights.  The port and stbd were mounted on the top edge of the deck boxes located between the cabin and scuttle hatch.  Not ideal, but good for motoring in a mooring area where they are visible at eye level when other boats are much closer to you in a confined area. Lower running lights on dedicated switch
Good luck
Mark
"Itchen"
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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 10:38 AM
Subject: [bcc] Lantern Boards for BCC

Has anyone installed lantern boards on the shrouds to mount navigation lights?  I am building a set of boards for IDUNA.  The main challenge is the lower shrouds are not in the same plane, i.e. the forward shroud is inside of the aft shroud in relation to the centerline of the boat.  This presents a problem with respect to the size of the cleats which connect the boards to the shrouds.  I will not discuss the boring details now.
 
I know the company now mounts the port and starboard navigation lights on the mast.  Because the forward sails obscure the lights, I do not believe this arrangement meets the COLOREGS standards.  I know I raised this question before.  Does anyone have a better solution?
Rod


On Waxwing, I went with a masthead tri-color. Not
traditional by very visable at sea.

On a previously owned little cutter I had kerosene
running lights on sideboards and had the same problem
with the shrouds not being aligned fore and aft. The
solution I used was to adapt the aft cleat to fit on
the outboard side of the shaddowboard. This brought
the boards more in line with the centerline of the
boat.

I did love those lights but underway they were often
hidden by seas and/or blanketed by the jib or
staysail.(They were also a major pain because they
often required refilling or re-lighting during the
night.)

Stan on Waxwing hull #22


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Stan:
Thanks, I did consider that option -  the forward cleat on the inside of the board and the aft cleat on the outward side of the lantern board.  When we purchased IDUNA she was equipped with a steaming light and tricolor.  This works but does not meet Federal standards (http://www.uscgboating.org/reg/reg_fr_contents.asp ) for a sailing vessel under power.  We sail out of Baltimore's Inner Harbor which has commercial traffic, harbor police, DNR police and Coast Guard patrols, hence the reason IDUNA must meet the Federal standard in addition to our desire for IDUNA  to display the proper lighting as well as day shapes.
Fair Winds and Following Seas,
Rod
Rod,
On Crystal Swan II, have a Red/Green on the apex of the Bow Pulpit and a White on the boom gallows. I also have a tri-color on the mast head on a separate switch.
I like the lantern boards on the shrouds but this will decrease the life of the shrouds because the contact points for the board fasteners will cause corrosion in the shrouds unless meticulously maintained.
 
Steve
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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 9:38 AM
Subject: [bcc] Lantern Boards for BCC

Has anyone installed lantern boards on the shrouds to mount navigation lights?  I am building a set of boards for IDUNA.  The main challenge is the lower shrouds are not in the same plane, i.e. the forward shroud is inside of the aft shroud in relation to the centerline of the boat.  This presents a problem with respect to the size of the cleats which connect the boards to the shrouds.  I will not discuss the boring details now.
 
I know the company now mounts the port and starboard navigation lights on the mast.  Because the forward sails obscure the lights, I do not believe this arrangement meets the COLOREGS standards.  I know I raised this question before.  Does anyone have a better solution?
Rod


Steve, I’m wondering what your fasteners were made of.
While I don’t have lightboards mounted on the shrouds,
I do have wood ratlines. In looking for a means to
keep the rungs from sliding down the stainless shrouds
(they are lashed to them but still slipped) I came up
with the split-bronze wire nuts used by electric
companies to clamp high voltage cable together. They
look like a standard fat hex head bolt with the
center slotted to pass around the wire and a nut that
can be tightened down.

As I said, these lugs are bronze or a type of copper.
I clamped them to the shrouds under each end of the
ratlines and while not very nautical, they worked
great for preventing any movement of the rungs.

When I removed these after about 15 years to replace
the shrouds, there was zero corrosion between the lug
and the wire. I had not bedded them with anything and
totally ignored them as far as any maintenance goes.
And this despite their share of salt spray without
freshwater rinsing.

I wish I had a digital camera, it would save a lot of
descriptive dialogue. In any case, these lugs can be
found in most general contractor stores including Home
Depot I believe.

Stan


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Stan,

I was referring more to the issues of retaining salt and dirt than the issue
of electrolysis.
Where I am on the Gulf of Mexico, there is a lot of airborne salt laden dirt
in the air. The will accumulate in very nook and cranny on the boat. Unless
you keep it cleaned off it will corrode everything.
Attachments on standing rigging provide an excellent place for this and
water born salt to accumulate and corrode the wire.

Steve
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From: “Stan Roeder” <waxwingers@yahoo.com >
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Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [bcc] Lantern Boards for BCC

Steve, I’m wondering what your fasteners were made of.
While I don’t have lightboards mounted on the shrouds,
I do have wood ratlines. In looking for a means to
keep the rungs from sliding down the stainless shrouds
(they are lashed to them but still slipped) I came up
with the split-bronze wire nuts used by electric
companies to clamp high voltage cable together. They
look like a standard fat hex head bolt with the
center slotted to pass around the wire and a nut that
can be tightened down.

As I said, these lugs are bronze or a type of copper.
I clamped them to the shrouds under each end of the
ratlines and while not very nautical, they worked
great for preventing any movement of the rungs.

When I removed these after about 15 years to replace
the shrouds, there was zero corrosion between the lug
and the wire. I had not bedded them with anything and
totally ignored them as far as any maintenance goes.
And this despite their share of salt spray without
freshwater rinsing.

I wish I had a digital camera, it would save a lot of
descriptive dialogue. In any case, these lugs can be
found in most general contractor stores including Home
Depot I believe.

Stan


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