RE: Topping lift

I have a full batten main with topping lift (but I don’t think it’s an
Elliot-Pattison main). The topping lift on my boat does not clear the roach
near the top, but I’ve never found it to be a problem with chafe or in any
other respect.

Gary Mynett
Dioscouri (hull #64)

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Harrer [mailto:whitewings@charter.net ]
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 12:50 PM
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Subject: [bcc] Topping lift

Does anyone else have an Elliot-Pattison, full batten main with a topping
lift installed? I built Roger’s lazy jack/topping lift and cannot get the
strings far enough forward on the boom to clear the top two battens while
still having enough leverage to hold up the boom while reefing etc. One of
these days I’m going to fall off the coach roof while clearing the sail.
I’m going to re-do Roger’s design to use as lazy jacks only because I
think it’s cool to do it for $25 and have a more durable system.
Eyeballing the clearance from end of boom to masthead sheaves makes me
think a topping lift won’t clear the roach. Anyone know for certain?

Mahalo…Tom

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Does anyone else have an Elliot-Pattison, full batten main with a topping
lift installed? I built Roger’s lazy jack/topping lift and cannot get the
strings far enough forward on the boom to clear the top two battens while
still having enough leverage to hold up the boom while reefing etc. One of
these days I’m going to fall off the coach roof while clearing the sail.
I’m going to re-do Roger’s design to use as lazy jacks only because I
think it’s cool to do it for $25 and have a more durable system.
Eyeballing the clearance from end of boom to masthead sheaves makes me
think a topping lift won’t clear the roach. Anyone know for certain?

Mahalo…Tom

Panacea has a full batten main made by Kern’s Sailmakers (Costa Mesa,
CA).
I also had problems with the main hanging up in the lazy jacks. I
installed a
topping lift and have had no problems with it. With the topping lift
set for the
boom to clear the gallows the topping lift goes slack with the main
raised and
it seems to stay clear. I now set the lazy jacks after I raise the
main. With this
arrangement the lazy jacks can be set with a little more slack than
if they were
requied to hold the weigh of the boom and the main seems to drop and
stack
a little better. When I had new covers made recently I eliminated
the slots for
the lazy jacks (I drop 'em and put them under the cover) Getting the
cover on
the main is less hassel than it used to be and I saved a few $$ on
the cover.

Dennis Fitzgerald
S/V Panacea (#105)

— In bcc@yahoogroups.com , Tom Harrer <whitewings@c…> wrote:

Does anyone else have an Elliot-Pattison, full batten main with a
topping
lift installed? I built Roger’s lazy jack/topping lift and cannot
get the
strings far enough forward on the boom to clear the top two battens
while
still having enough leverage to hold up the boom while reefing etc.
One of
these days I’m going to fall off the coach roof while clearing the
sail.
I’m going to re-do Roger’s design to use as lazy jacks only
because I
think it’s cool to do it for $25 and have a more durable system.
Eyeballing the clearance from end of boom to masthead sheaves makes
me
think a topping lift won’t clear the roach. Anyone know for
certain?

Mahalo…Tom

Our topping lift on Shamrock, hull 92, is run external at the mast head.
Old boat Challenger 32: We also used a fixed length topping lift attached to a tang at the mast head, with a block near the end of the boom. the control line was fixed at the rear of the boom, ran up to the topping lift block and back down to the boom, adjustment made at the gooseneck of the boom.  This affair worked well, but we feel the mast head sheve arrangement of BCC is much simpler and we don't have a small block banging against the main sail.
Marty Chin, BCC Shamrock
Alameda, CA.


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The topping lift on Fritha runs from cleats at the front of the mast through blocks just under the upper spreaders and then down to the aft end of the boom.  Lines are spliced into this line and are tied under the boom.  I'm considering attaching them to the boom similar to the Pardey's method and add flaps to the mainsail cover.  Just another project that waits in line with the others.
 
Doug Beu
s/v Fritha
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Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:53 AM
Subject: [bcc] Re: topping lift

Our topping lift on Shamrock, hull 92, is run external at the mast head.
Old boat Challenger 32: We also used a fixed length topping lift attached to a tang at the mast head, with a block near the end of the boom. the control line was fixed at the rear of the boom, ran up to the topping lift block and back down to the boom, adjustment made at the gooseneck of the boom.  This affair worked well, but we feel the mast head sheve arrangement of BCC is much simpler and we don't have a small block banging against the main sail.
Marty Chin, BCC Shamrock
Alameda, CA.


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Itchen's topping lift uses the center sheave at the masthead, is external and cleats-off on the mast, portside forward.  If I was going to change anything I would consider moving the cleat to the starb'd side - easier to handle when dropping the main, or when reefing since the reef lines are run down the starb'd side of the boom. But it works ok as is. 
 
Scott (Itchen; BCC #73 )