SSB/HAM antennas

John:
 
Enjoyed the images on this rainy day - thanks.
 
Do you plan to have either a ham or SSB radio when you voyage to Europe?  If so, how do you plan to rig the antenna?
 
Do you have anymore information on the VAT exempt clause regarding boats built before 1983?
 
Rod
S/V IDUNA
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:28 PM
Subject: [bcc] more pics

Raining today, so I can't paint the bottom, sitting here playing on the
computer.
    Ever wonder about careening the BCC?  She sits pretty far over and
down by the nose.  Water just laps over the bulwark  This was in
Georgia, in an unbouyed alternate channel off the ICW, 9' tides, charted
but unmarked shoal  that stuck out further than expected, sailing close
hauled so I was heeled already, falling tide.  I did not stand a
chance.  She came right off when the water came back.
   Other scenic picture is in Acadia National Park, at Duck Harbor on
Isle au Haut.  Picture is at high water, the deep water is only about
40' wide at low, hence the bow and stern anchors.  Beautiful hiking
ashore.
   Last picture is flying my $100 beater chute in light air on Penobscot
Bay.  It is a little short on the foot to set real well.  Spotting a
spinnaker in the distance, the race was on.  I overtook and passed a
Sabre 36.  Admittedly, they only had an assymetric and were not using
the main, but still a respectable performance for a fat, full keel
girl.  We took pictures of each other and exchanged them later.

John Churchill


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Rod-
No fancy transmitters for me. Too much
weight/space/power/complication/expense/intrusion. Plus, MY
electrical panel is all full. I will just bring my trusty SSB
receiver (and a spare). If I REALLY need to talk to someone I will
fire off the EPIRB, expect it not to work and if it does, plan on
abandoning ship.
There has been some recent discussion on Brion Toss’s SPARTALK
website about SSB antennae. Some of it, regarding the physics of
radio wave transmission were beyond me. I am still trying to figure
out why it is not impossible for a boat to sail to windward.
No luck on pinning down any VAT info from an official source. I
still do not have the boat’s year on the documentation, so it may be a
moot point. I will just go over, hope to meet an accomodating
official, stay flexible and change plans if necessary. How does
wintering over in Tunisia sound?
John

— In bcc@y…, “Rod Bruckdorfer” <seagypsy@a…> wrote:

John:

Enjoyed the images on this rainy day - thanks.

Do you plan to have either a ham or SSB radio when you voyage to
Europe? If so, how do you plan to rig the antenna?

Do you have anymore information on the VAT exempt clause regarding
boats built before 1983?

Rod
S/V IDUNA
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Churchill
To: bcc@y…
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:28 PM
Subject: [bcc] more pics

Raining today, so I can’t paint the bottom, sitting here playing
on the
computer.
Ever wonder about careening the BCC? She sits pretty far over
and
down by the nose. Water just laps over the bulwark This was in
Georgia, in an unbouyed alternate channel off the ICW, 9’ tides,
charted
but unmarked shoal that stuck out further than expected, sailing
close
hauled so I was heeled already, falling tide. I did not stand a
chance. She came right off when the water came back.
Other scenic picture is in Acadia National Park, at Duck Harbor
on
Isle au Haut. Picture is at high water, the deep water is only
about
40’ wide at low, hence the bow and stern anchors. Beautiful
hiking
ashore.
Last picture is flying my $100 beater chute in light air on
Penobscot
Bay. It is a little short on the foot to set real well. Spotting
a
spinnaker in the distance, the race was on. I overtook and passed
a
Sabre 36. Admittedly, they only had an assymetric and were not
using
the main, but still a respectable performance for a fat, full keel
girl. We took pictures of each other and exchanged them later.

John Churchill
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Check back issues of Cruising World(last 3/4 months). I recall an article
about VAT in Europe. If I remember correctly one now has 18 months cruising
before VAT is required.

Denis
VE6DR
----- Original Message -----
From: “jcskua” <jchurchill@erols.com >
To: <bcc@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 6:11 PM
Subject: [bcc] Re: SSB/HAM antennas

Rod-
No fancy transmitters for me. Too much
weight/space/power/complication/expense/intrusion. Plus, MY
electrical panel is all full. I will just bring my trusty SSB
receiver (and a spare). If I REALLY need to talk to someone I will
fire off the EPIRB, expect it not to work and if it does, plan on
abandoning ship.
There has been some recent discussion on Brion Toss’s SPARTALK
website about SSB antennae. Some of it, regarding the physics of
radio wave transmission were beyond me. I am still trying to figure
out why it is not impossible for a boat to sail to windward.
No luck on pinning down any VAT info from an official source. I
still do not have the boat’s year on the documentation, so it may be a
moot point. I will just go over, hope to meet an accomodating
official, stay flexible and change plans if necessary. How does
wintering over in Tunisia sound?
John

— In bcc@y…, “Rod Bruckdorfer” <seagypsy@a…> wrote:

John:

Enjoyed the images on this rainy day - thanks.

Do you plan to have either a ham or SSB radio when you voyage to
Europe? If so, how do you plan to rig the antenna?

Do you have anymore information on the VAT exempt clause regarding
boats built before 1983?

Rod
S/V IDUNA
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Churchill
To: bcc@y…
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:28 PM
Subject: [bcc] more pics

Raining today, so I can’t paint the bottom, sitting here playing
on the
computer.
Ever wonder about careening the BCC? She sits pretty far over
and
down by the nose. Water just laps over the bulwark This was in
Georgia, in an unbouyed alternate channel off the ICW, 9’ tides,
charted
but unmarked shoal that stuck out further than expected, sailing
close
hauled so I was heeled already, falling tide. I did not stand a
chance. She came right off when the water came back.
Other scenic picture is in Acadia National Park, at Duck Harbor
on
Isle au Haut. Picture is at high water, the deep water is only
about
40’ wide at low, hence the bow and stern anchors. Beautiful
hiking
ashore.
Last picture is flying my $100 beater chute in light air on
Penobscot
Bay. It is a little short on the foot to set real well. Spotting
a
spinnaker in the distance, the race was on. I overtook and passed
a
Sabre 36. Admittedly, they only had an assymetric and were not
using
the main, but still a respectable performance for a fat, full keel
girl. We took pictures of each other and exchanged them later.

John Churchill
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I think you’re referring to the January issue of Sail, which does confirm
your 18 month figure. Extensive article with lots of useful info. If you
can’t find it, I can mail it to you; I was about to recycle that issue.

----- Original Message -----
From: “Denis N Ripley” <dripley@shaw.ca >
To: <bcc@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [bcc] Re: SSB/HAM antennas

Check back issues of Cruising World(last 3/4 months). I recall an article
about VAT in Europe. If I remember correctly one now has 18 months
cruising
before VAT is required.

Denis
VE6DR
----- Original Message -----
From: “jcskua” <jchurchill@erols.com >
To: <bcc@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 6:11 PM
Subject: [bcc] Re: SSB/HAM antennas

Rod-
No fancy transmitters for me. Too much
weight/space/power/complication/expense/intrusion. Plus, MY
electrical panel is all full. I will just bring my trusty SSB
receiver (and a spare). If I REALLY need to talk to someone I will
fire off the EPIRB, expect it not to work and if it does, plan on
abandoning ship.
There has been some recent discussion on Brion Toss’s SPARTALK
website about SSB antennae. Some of it, regarding the physics of
radio wave transmission were beyond me. I am still trying to figure
out why it is not impossible for a boat to sail to windward.
No luck on pinning down any VAT info from an official source. I
still do not have the boat’s year on the documentation, so it may be a
moot point. I will just go over, hope to meet an accomodating
official, stay flexible and change plans if necessary. How does
wintering over in Tunisia sound?
John

— In bcc@y…, “Rod Bruckdorfer” <seagypsy@a…> wrote:

John:

Enjoyed the images on this rainy day - thanks.

Do you plan to have either a ham or SSB radio when you voyage to
Europe? If so, how do you plan to rig the antenna?

Do you have anymore information on the VAT exempt clause regarding
boats built before 1983?

Rod
S/V IDUNA
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Churchill
To: bcc@y…
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:28 PM
Subject: [bcc] more pics

Raining today, so I can’t paint the bottom, sitting here playing
on the
computer.
Ever wonder about careening the BCC? She sits pretty far over
and
down by the nose. Water just laps over the bulwark This was in
Georgia, in an unbouyed alternate channel off the ICW, 9’ tides,
charted
but unmarked shoal that stuck out further than expected, sailing
close
hauled so I was heeled already, falling tide. I did not stand a
chance. She came right off when the water came back.
Other scenic picture is in Acadia National Park, at Duck Harbor
on
Isle au Haut. Picture is at high water, the deep water is only
about
40’ wide at low, hence the bow and stern anchors. Beautiful
hiking
ashore.
Last picture is flying my $100 beater chute in light air on
Penobscot
Bay. It is a little short on the foot to set real well. Spotting
a
spinnaker in the distance, the race was on. I overtook and passed
a
Sabre 36. Admittedly, they only had an assymetric and were not
using
the main, but still a respectable performance for a fat, full keel
girl. We took pictures of each other and exchanged them later.

John Churchill
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Hi All,  Ex BCCer, Russ here.  Just had to comment on the radio antenna on Pelagic (Now "Ariel")  We had an Icom 706MKIIG  ham box and an AH4 tuner.  I was always against insulating the backstay if it was not necessary.  Our radio tech. suggested running a longwire up on a spare halyard.  And try that first.  Well we never went back.  It works great.  I had a few different wire types but the last was the best.  A length of 24awg speaker wire threaded in side the sheath of a length of 1/8" dacron that had the core removed.  This takes a couple hours but is worth it.  Tie a loop on the top end and connect to the halyard.  And another at the bottom and anchor to the boomkin about half way out.  Break out the wire through the side of the dacron and connect to the tuner output.  Tension up the halyard well.  It can take alot of tension and the sheath constricts very tightly around the wire.  But there is no load on the wire itself.

I used the ground tail in the lazarette for the ground which is said to be connected to the lead in the ballast.  I used this only as a capacitive counterpoise and the whole system worked just great on all bands.

Cannot say enough about the Icom.  We just hated those big clunker SSBs.  But I think that Icom has a new marine radio that is about the same size of the little 706.

Good luck.

Russ...

  Rod Bruckdorfer wrote:

John:
 
Enjoyed the images on this rainy day - thanks.
 
Do you plan to have either a ham or SSB radio when you voyage to Europe?  If so, how do you plan to rig the antenna?
 
Do you have anymore information on the VAT exempt clause regarding boats built before 1983?
 
Rod
S/V IDUNA
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:28 PM
Subject: [bcc] more pics

Raining today, so I can't paint the bottom, sitting here playing on the
computer.
    Ever wonder about careening the BCC?  She sits pretty far over and
down by the nose.  Water just laps over the bulwark  This was in
Georgia, in an unbouyed alternate channel off the ICW, 9' tides, charted
but unmarked shoal  that stuck out further than expected, sailing close
hauled so I was heeled already, falling tide.  I did not stand a
chance.  She came right off when the water came back.
   Other scenic picture is in Acadia National Park, at Duck Harbor on
Isle au Haut.  Picture is at high water, the deep water is only about
40' wide at low, hence the bow and stern anchors.  Beautiful hiking
ashore.
   Last picture is flying my $100 beater chute in light air on Penobscot
Bay.  It is a little short on the foot to set real well.  Spotting a
spinnaker in the distance, the race was on.  I overtook and passed a
Sabre 36.  Admittedly, they only had an assymetric and were not using
the main, but still a respectable performance for a fat, full keel
girl.  We took pictures of each other and exchanged them later.

John Churchill


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Hi All,
Does anyone know how I go about getting a SSB licence for a radio that came
with my boat? I have reviewed the FCC homepage but I was unable to determine
anything useful.

Thanks.
John

— In bcc@y…, stonej0302@a… wrote:

Hi All,
Does anyone know how I go about getting a SSB licence for a radio
that came
with my boat? I have reviewed the FCC homepage but I was unable to
determine
anything useful.

Thanks.
John

They have recently changed it, to increase the inconvenience. You can
print the forms from the website. You need a license for yourself,
which is good for life, called a radio operators permit. You also
need a ship’s license, good for 10 yrs unless the boat is sold, which
runs $150. If you only have a VHF and want to go foreign, you still
need the ship’s license. You also need it if you have a Epirb. They
have an 800 #, but you need to know the form # for that as well.
For the ship’s license you need forms FCC159, FCC160, FCC605 and
FCC1070-Y. I am not sure, since it has been a while, but I think you
can get your personal license with #605.
John Churchill

Go to http://www.radio.gov.uk/publication/ra_info/ra145.htm
fill out the form and send it in.

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: <stonej0302@aol.com >
To: <bcc@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [bcc] SSB/HAM antennas

Hi All,
Does anyone know how I go about getting a SSB licence for a radio that
came
with my boat? I have reviewed the FCC homepage but I was unable to
determine
anything useful.

Thanks.
John

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