Group Housekeeping

Hello All,
 
I've done some digging regarding the groups' future facilities.  I've looked at setting up an online forum somewhere else (e.g. http://members.lycos.co.uk/bccowners/phpbb2/index.php ) and taken another look at what Yahoo offers us.  From my perspective, there is nothing particularly "broken" with Yahoo Groups - except for the lack of photo posting space.  To that end, I'm not going to change anything (yet) except for the photo issue.
 
I checked commercial solutions such as Webshots:
 
 
It looks nice, but does not really facilitate collaborative sharing; we'd have to share passwords and you cant add to existing albums... Instead I but favor hosting this privately.  I've setup the following as a test.  Its extremely flexible and has a nice presentation.
 
 
You can upload your own pictures using ftp - which is the fatest way to send lots of pictures; add them to existing folders; or upload a whole folder - drag it from your desktop - dont try create it in the ftp window or you'll find you cant give it a name - you'll be stuck with the default "New Folder".  Use the "reindex" button to "register" your upload; then they can be viewed by everyone.  Let me know how this works for you.  I may make additional changes to make it more intuitive.
 
If you have not noticed, the new SLM site is coming along and has an online forum under construction.  I got a peek at it the other day, but it seems gone now:
 
 
It looked like John Cole had managed to harvest the Yahoo Groups archive and load this into the forum on the SLM site.  I don't know yet what the full functionality of this will be.  I've posted a "poll" regarding "online forum" versus "mail list" here:
 
 
I'd be interested in seeing your responses.
 
I also noted in my brief peek that there is a "pictures" section under construction there too.
 
So many changes... :)  
 
Regards,
Jeremy
 
 
 

The new forum is ready and programmed - it is undergoing those
endless finishing touches before being launched.

Here is a rundown on some of the features it has:

Non registered users can view the forum, but cannot post or reply to
posts. The system retains the IP address of posters, so that in the
event that a bad person gets registered, we can block their access
for all time.

Each registered user has a profile, much like Yahoo, but with the
ability to add images which, once loaded, would appear with each
posting you make. (Known as an Avatar) So, you can let people see
what you look like, or have a small image of your boat, or nothing
at all.

Each registered user can create a signature that would appear at the
bottom of the message – saves typing it in every time, and you can
include date like your web address to appear every time. (We don’t
recommend placing e-mail addresses or telephone numbers here –
that’s how you get spam and targeted solicitation calls.)

Registered users can use a Private Message system to correspond with
other registered users. If you send a message to another member,
they will see that they have messages the next time they log on. If
both members are on line at the same time, they can use this as a
chat system. This is marginally more secure than e-mail, because
both sender and recipient are addressing the same server. Also,
there are no e-mail addresses used, so the spam probability
diminishes. Private messages are not published on the forum.

Registered users can determine how they want to view the forum –
there are three possibilities – you will get information when you
register.

Registered users can request e-mail notification of all messages,
specific threads, or just replies to messages thy have posted.

Images: Each user can upload 30 images to a maximum of 1 megabyte.
(This can be expanded if room gets tight.) Images can be uploaded
together with a message, and users have the ability to do
housekeeping on their own image space. File types allowed currently
are gif, jpg, png and zip. Zip. Perhaps we should add pdf to the
list.

Search feature: You can search for a posting. The search engine
searches the title, body and author, so you can, if you wish, find
every message that a user wrote, or every message on a particular
topic.

We are developing a new element, and that is the ability to send an
e-mail directly to the forum where it will get published.
Unfortunately, because of the many anti-spam and anti-virus checks
we have to go through, this will take a little time to develop.

So far we have created the following pages:

BCC Forum

Maintenance Issues: Items culled from previous messages for quick
reference

Archives: This is where all Yahoo! Messages are stored – in threaded
order and by sender. The reason that they are not placed directly
into the forum is because everyone’s registration data will change
slightly, and I won’t be able to link them all.

Boats for sale: Here owners can list the boats – one small proviso:
Only Lyle Hess boats, please – we do not want this to become a
general brokerage page.

We are possibly going to add another page, “Cruising Chat” or about
my boat, where owned will have their own space to tell stories about
their voyages and experiences, including images. That, however, is
up to you – it will only take a few minutes to create.

As soon as the web is published and we have a moderator, Sam L.
Morse and Coledata will have no influence over the content of the
pages. These are your pages, Sam L. Morse has never had
administrative access, and although I am webmaster for Sam L. Morse
Company, my only roll in the forum will be to assist users who
experience any problems.

Jeremy and Nica are already registered with moderator rights, and I
did send them an e-mail about how to access the site while it is
still under development, and how to work his profile. Perhaps he
never received it?

Regards
John

— In bcc@yahoogroups.com , “Jeremy and Nica Waters”
<sailingbeagles@g…> wrote:

Hello All,

I’ve done some digging regarding the groups’ future facilities.
I’ve looked at setting up an online forum somewhere else (e.g.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/bccowners/phpbb2/index.php ) and taken
another look at what Yahoo offers us. From my perspective, there is
nothing particularly “broken” with Yahoo Groups - except for the
lack of photo posting space. To that end, I’m not going to change
anything (yet) except for the photo issue.

I checked commercial solutions such as Webshots:

http://community.webshots.com/user/bccowners )

It looks nice, but does not really facilitate collaborative
sharing; we’d have to share passwords and you cant add to existing
albums… Instead I but favor hosting this privately. I’ve setup
the following as a test. Its extremely flexible and has a nice
presentation.

http://jaffadog.dyndns.org:8182/dalbum

You can upload your own pictures using ftp - which is the fatest
way to send lots of pictures; add them to existing folders; or
upload a whole folder - drag it from your desktop - dont try create
it in the ftp window or you’ll find you cant give it a name - you’ll
be stuck with the default “New Folder”. Use the “reindex” button
to “register” your upload; then they can be viewed by everyone. Let
me know how this works for you. I may make additional changes to
make it more intuitive.

If you have not noticed, the new SLM site is coming along and has
an online forum under construction. I got a peek at it the other
day, but it seems gone now:

http://www.samlmorse.com/

It looked like John Cole had managed to harvest the Yahoo Groups
archive and load this into the forum on the SLM site. I don’t know
yet what the full functionality of this will be. I’ve posted
a “poll” regarding “online forum” versus “mail list” here:

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/bcc/surveys?id=1621083

I’d be interested in seeing your responses.

I also noted in my brief peek that there is a “pictures” section
under construction there too.

So many changes… :slight_smile:

Regards,
Jeremy