Someone, a while back asked about larger versions of the BCC or other
Hess designs bigger than 28’.
I have copies of a sales brochure from J&I Boatworks in Huntington Beach
for a Hess designed 40’ English Channel Cutter.
Ian Findley of J&I Boatworks was passing these out at the Orange Coast
College Sailing Series in January 98. If anyone wishes a copy, I will
be happy to email them to you.
Jim
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Jim,
If you could send to the list:
for the J&I Boatworks 40 footer, that would be nice.
Thanks!
Paul
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On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Scudder, Jim wrote:
Someone, a while back asked about larger versions of the BCC or other
Hess designs bigger than 28’.
I have copies of a sales brochure from J&I Boatworks in Huntington Beach
for a Hess designed 40’ English Channel Cutter.
Ian Findley of J&I Boatworks was passing these out at the Orange Coast
College Sailing Series in January 98. If anyone wishes a copy, I will
be happy to email them to you.
Jim
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Scudder, Jim wrote:
Someone, a while back asked about larger versions of the BCC or other
Hess designs bigger than 28’.
I have copies of a sales brochure from J&I Boatworks in Huntington Beach
for a Hess designed 40’ English Channel Cutter.
Ian Findley of J&I Boatworks was passing these out at the Orange Coast
College Sailing Series in January 98. If anyone wishes a copy, I will
be happy to email them to you.
Jim
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Jim
Please email me a copy.
Thanks
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Yes please!! jabbott@kal.snowdenau.com
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original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bcc/?start=125
Someone, a while back asked about larger versions of the BCC or other
Hess designs bigger than 28’.
I have copies of a sales brochure from J&I Boatworks in Huntington
Beach
for a Hess designed 40’ English Channel Cutter.
Ian Findley of J&I Boatworks was passing these out at the Orange Coast
College Sailing Series in January 98. If anyone wishes a copy, I will
be happy to email them to you.
Jim
Hello,
I am interested to know whether the 40" version is fiberglass or wood hull.
thank you,
mike lyon
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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 22:28:03 -0700Yes please!! jabbott@kal.snowdenau.com
<2c63cd9f0abcd11197e00060b03c23f23342d-@poppyhill.terastor.com > wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bcc/?start=125Someone, a while back asked about larger versions of the BCC or other
Hess designs bigger than 28’.
I have copies of a sales brochure from J&I Boatworks in Huntington
Beach
for a Hess designed 40’ English Channel Cutter.
Ian Findley of J&I Boatworks was passing these out at the Orange Coast
College Sailing Series in January 98. If anyone wishes a copy, I will
be happy to email them to you.
Jim
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I would love to look at the 40’ Hess design. By all means, if its not a
hassle, please forward the brochure.
Thanks very much,
Rocky
Hi,
I have personally seen the plug for the mold for the 40 footer and it
is HUGE. Considering waterline, beam and length, it is easily three
times larger then the 28 footer. I know my 30 footer is much bigger
then the 28 with only 2 more feet. Hey with the stock market going
so crazy these days maybe one of you guys can afford to finish one of
these monsters. After building a 30 footer I know it will be in
excess of 400K to float the 40. Good luck and I can’t wait to see
one of these some day when one of you guys go for it.
RJ
Hi All,
If I’m not mistaken Lyle Hess designed a 22, 28, 30, 32, and 40 footer
based on the Engish work boat model. They are stable, easy going in a
seaway, and just overall fine boats. Sam L. Morse produces the lower end
2 models, Ian Finlay (J&I Boatworks) will be producing the 40 footer, who
produces the 30, 32, and any other models?
Paul
Paul B. Brown pbrown@btechnet.com
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On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Rocky Botts wrote:
I would love to look at the 40’ Hess design. By all means, if its not a
hassle, please forward the brochure.Thanks very much,
Rocky
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<2c63cd9f0abcd11197e00060b03c23f23342d-@poppyhill.terastor.com > wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bcc/?start=125Someone, a while back asked about larger versions of the BCC or other
Hess designs bigger than 28’.
I have copies of a sales brochure from J&I Boatworks in Huntington
Beach
for a Hess designed 40’ English Channel Cutter.
Ian Findley of J&I Boatworks was passing these out at the Orange Coast
College Sailing Series in January 98. If anyone wishes a copy, I will
be happy to email them to you.
Jim
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Do you think there would be a market for a Hess 30 or 40 footer if
someone can get the cost down?
Yep, but why reduce the cost? What corners would you cut to same money?
Paul B. Brown pbrown@btechnet.com
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On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Sidney Patin wrote:
Do you think there would be a market for a Hess 30 or 40 footer if
someone can get the cost down?
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The first question is; would you want to sail on a Lyle Hess design where
someone had cut corners to “get the cost down”
i.e. “We didn’t compromise safety but an interior is OPTIONAL”
I think it would be far more feasable to wrestle the building rights for
the 32 or 34 footer away from who ever is sitting on them. That forty
footer is a rich mans boat even if you build it yourself, if you have the
slightest inclination toward remaining true to Lyle’s design intent. Just
take Roger’s cost per pound and extrapolate it out for the forty’s
displacement and you will most likely be low in your estimates because you
won’t get Roger’s builders price breaks unless you are really clever or you
have connections
If you have any doubts call Cecil Lange, builder of the Cape George Cutter,
who offers a forty foot version of that wonderful boat.
Something less than half the cost will go to labor, so you can save a chunk
of money by doing it yourself. But you must realize that the total man
hours involved will be 800 to 1000 per ton of displacement or 9,000-12,000
hours of labor (4-6 years, one man, full time. This assumes he is a
competent boatwright. adjust figures up for people who are learning as
they go) If like most of us, you are a full time employee and a part time
builder you are looking at something like seven years to finish out the BCC
bare hull…so I shudder at even the thought of building the forty. I
read in cruising world about a fella who built a ferrocement fifty footer.
He finished, but it took him twenty years. The marina rats the local warf
brigade called him captain concrete.
So, to answer your question, sure there would be a market for such a boat.
But it wouldn’t be a Lyle Hess design even though Lyle designed it. It
would be a tupperware knockoff of a classic design of the coastal cruiser
variety where you can relax on the setee and watch the light shimmer
through the hull.
Regards
Donald Kircher / Kokopelli
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On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Don wrote:
The first question is; would you want to sail on a Lyle Hess design where
someone had cut corners to “get the cost down”i.e. “We didn’t compromise safety but an interior is OPTIONAL”
I think it would be far more feasable to wrestle the building rights for
the 32 or 34 footer away from who ever is sitting on them. That forty
footer is a rich mans boat even if you build it yourself, if you have the
slightest inclination toward remaining true to Lyle’s design intent. Just
take Roger’s cost per pound and extrapolate it out for the forty’s
displacement and you will most likely be low in your estimates because you
won’t get Roger’s builders price breaks unless you are really clever or you
have connectionsIf you have any doubts call Cecil Lange, builder of the Cape George Cutter,
who offers a forty foot version of that wonderful boat.Something less than half the cost will go to labor, so you can save a chunk
of money by doing it yourself. But you must realize that the total man
hours involved will be 800 to 1000 per ton of displacement or 9,000-12,000
hours of labor (4-6 years, one man, full time. This assumes he is a
competent boatwright. adjust figures up for people who are learning as
they go) If like most of us, you are a full time employee and a part time
builder you are looking at something like seven years to finish out the BCC
bare hull…so I shudder at even the thought of building the forty. I
read in cruising world about a fella who built a ferrocement fifty footer.
He finished, but it took him twenty years. The marina rats the local warf
brigade called him captain concrete.So, to answer your question, sure there would be a market for such a boat.
But it wouldn’t be a Lyle Hess design even though Lyle designed it. It
would be a tupperware knockoff of a classic design of the coastal cruiser
variety where you can relax on the setee and watch the light shimmer
through the hull.Regards
Donald Kircher / Kokopelli
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wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bcc/?start=125Someone, a while back asked about larger versions of the BCC or
other
Hess designs bigger than 28’.
I have copies of a sales brochure from J&I Boatworks in Huntington
Beach
for a Hess designed 40’ English Channel Cutter.
Ian Findley of J&I Boatworks was passing these out at the Orange
Coast
College Sailing Series in January 98. If anyone wishes a copy, I
will
be happy to email them to you.
Jim
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I would like a copy also.....
Thank You
Steven Osborne
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