Navico/Simrad tiller pilot replacement

Itchen’s old Navico TP300 CX tiller pilot began operating erratically a day out of Beaufort – wants to go hard to starbord and the problem seem to be electronic not mechanical this time. Last time one of the buttons was stuck and that could be easily fixed. So, does anybody know if this is likely fixable, and if not, what’s the best replacement. Navico has since been bought by Simrad - is the Simrad TP30 a drop-in replacement for the Navico 300CX? Would it use the same pedestal mount? It seems to be rated for a larger boat than a BCC, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. I REALLY want to fix it or get a replacement it before the next leg of our trip homewards from Beaufort!

Regards to all,

Scott

We recently purchase the Navico/Simrad TP30, bought two of them from go2marine.com in Seattle, factory refurbished at $300 each without remote control. Both the Raymarine, formerly Autohelm and the Simrad TP30 are rated at 185 ft/lb max. Early tiller pilots are notorious for blowing cylinders, so we wanted the biggest tiller pilot from the durability standpoint, the TP30 replaced our Autohelm unit perfectly, everything is located in the ram assembly, unlike the autohelm at a wopping $1800 which spreads the keypad and compass all over the boat; the object of having a standby spare is to unplug and replace everything to eliminate all components within the system and get underway now. Short of having a power cord and receptical failure, the backup system has us back online in a hurry. We’ll deal with troubleshooting the problem later, in calm waters.

We like the tacking feature in the TP30, all we have to do is push 2 buttons and tend the sheets, the TP30 will bring Shamrock through the wind and set us up on a new tack, a nice feature shorthanded in rough seas.

You are better off stepping up to new techknowledgy than to fiddle fixing the old units, most vendors do not carry parts or want to think about servicing these units. We repaced a mint conditon Autohelm 2000, couldn’t find a backup spare in similar condition, so we EBayed it at $300, which paid for one of our new tiller pilots.

Electronics in my opinion these days are unplug and toss items, by the time they go bad, parts are obsolete or no longer available. This is coming from a guy who was raised on the principal of repair vs. replace, times have changed and so has the network of suppliers who use to support this equipment. I’m having a hard time adjusting to this philsophy, but I’m having fewer headaches these day and waste fewer days tracking down used junk.

Gone to the dark side :slight_smile:

Marty

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Subject: Navico/Simrad tiller pilot replacement
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Itchen’s old Navico TP300 CX tiller pilot began operating erratically a day out of Beaufort – wants to go hard to starbord and the problem seem to be electronic not mechanical this time. Last time one of the buttons was stuck and that could be easily fixed. So, does anybody know if this is likely fixable, and if not, what’s the best replacement. Navico has since been bought by Simrad - is the Simrad TP30 a drop-in replacement for the Navico 300CX? Would it use the same pedestal mount? It seems to be rated for a larger boat than a BCC, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. I REALLY want to fix it or get a replacement it before the next leg of our trip homewards from Beaufort!

Regards to all,

Scott

BCC ITCHEN:

Welcome back to the Eastern Seaboard. Did you install a Cape Horn windvane steering system on Itchen before you left the USA?

Fair Winds,

Rod

Rod,
Thanks, we ended up enjoying the Abacos enough to not venture farther afield but it’s nice to be almost home. I think we’ll go again next year for a longer time and try to make it down to the Exumas. As for the Cape Horn vane, no, I got caught up with other priorities and never got around to ordering and installing a vane. After four days and three nights of tiller pilot fiddling out in the Stream, I think it should have been higher on my list. With a larger crew it might be different, but particularly after the Simrad failed it was tiring to have to hand steer all the time and not have that “extra hand” when sail-tending or fussing with the radar, talking to other vessels, etc. All in all I think the tiller pilot does a surprisingly good job of staying approximately on course with an ocassional adjustment, but clearly a vane is the way to go when out of sight of land.

After a few days of continuous going under wet and lumpy sea conditions cockpit seating comfort became a another big issue. Very different need than the usual overnight run up the coast. I’m going to give some serious thought to seat and backrest cushion design sized for a BCC cockpit and wonder what others have found ideal. Kate once suggested a folding canvas and adjustable aluminum frame rig sold by West Marine and that’s on my list of items to try. I’ve seen pads fitted to the lifelines to provide a backrest of sorts as another alternative.

Altogether though, it was pleasant to see how nicely she handled a wide variety of conditions and especially her relatively easy and predictable motion under rough conditions. We were very glad to have gotten around to fitting a lee cloth for the starboard berth – essential I think for comfy off-watch sleeping offshore.

Scott
Itchen BCC 73

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On 6/29/05, BCC Forums bccforums@samlmorse.com wrote:

Author: IDUNA
Username: IDUNA
Subject: Re: Navico/Simrad tiller pilot replacement
Forum: BCC Forum
Link: http://www.samlmorse.com/forum/read.php?5,4117,4119#msg-4119

BCC ITCHEN:

Welcome back to the Eastern Seaboard. Did you install a Cape Horn windvane steering system on Itchen before you left the USA?

Fair Winds,

Rod

Scott:

RogueWave Yacht Sales listed a BCC with backrests. A picture of the backrest is shown under the full specs listing.

Hope the following link works.

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_full_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=1401065&hosturl=roguewave&&ywo=roguewave&&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=32744&url=&hosturl=roguewave&&ywo=roguewave&

The backrest has two vertical slotted supports that are connected together with three or four horizontal wood slats to make the backrest. The vertical slotted supports are placed over a coaming to form the backrest.

The wood in the picture shown appears to be white oak but Douglas fir, or yellow pine would be suitable.

Rod
BCC IDUNA

Rod.
Looks like just the thing. That plus a wedge-shaped closed cell seat
cushion and I think we’d be in business.
Thanks, Scott

On 6/30/05, BCC Forums bccforums@samlmorse.com wrote:


Scott