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Was very interested in the request for a BCC-type design of about 32ft.
There are very few traditional working boat based designs, such as
what we have come to know as the "Pilot Cutters", in this range.
Most of the designs seem to be pretty close to the famous Bristol
Channel cutter itself at 28 x 10 on deck or else jump right up to the
37ft area, case in point being the next biggest of
Lyle Hess himself
Roger Dongray and Antonio Dias have both designed 30 footers;
Dongays Cornish Crabber Pilot Cutter 30 is narrower at 9' 6" so no bigger.
(Not to be confused with the Crabber 30 which is 24 LOD)
http://www.britanniaboats.com/images/C30/30ft.htm Devlin's "Hope of Glory" 28 was downsized for a client who thought "Means of Grace" at 10ft longer was too big to single hand.Its
beautiful, and roomy, photos/drawings:
http://www.devlinboat.com/dchogmog.htm Another beautiful design that would come close to filling the bill is
Paul Gartside's 30 x 9' 11" Gaff Cutter at 18000lb / 600sq ft sail area.
I dont have a web reference. It appears to be the big sister of his
beautiful 20ft Design which is being built ansd marketed in England by
a small independent builder. The boats have been likened to Itchen Ferry.
Wooden Boat has published some detail on these boats recently.
However Mark Smaalders does market a beautiful design that fits the bill.
He is fact has a full range, 23,26,29 and the "Kahuna 32".
You can see photos and good sized drawings of these fabulous boats
A couple in Australia published an article on how happy they were living aboard
Smaalder's "Austral 29", which they built themselves.
Sincerely
Jeff Gilbert
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Ref The Paul Gartside design, I am working closely with Paul on an 18’ gaff cutter which I plan to build in the States in the next couple years, and am very familiar with his 30’ design as well. The 30’ is not based on an Itchen Ferry, or a Falmouth Quay Punt or Workboat, but is a blend of several different boats. It is closest in concept to the Falmouth Workboats, such as are currently built by Martin Heard in Tregatreath Cornwall, but has finer lines and a less extreme gaff rig. The bowsprit in particular is more in line with Lyle Hess’s sail plan (a proper Falmouth boat would have a bowsprit around 14’ long, instead of the very moderate 9’ on Pauls’ plan). It is also a bit deeper than a Lyle Hess of similar size, with floors that rise a bit steeper as well. Note, neither this boat, nor the Lyle Hess designs have much in common with the true Bristol Channel Pilot Cutter, or any of the other European pilot cutters for that matter, which generally have counter sterns, a ve!
ry deep forefoot, slack bilges, steep floors, and were designed specifically for sea-keeping, with sailing performance very much a secondary consideration. if you would like to get in touch with Paul Gartside, and or view his website (the study plans are available for all his designs), check out ‘www.gartsideboats.com’
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 04:06:57 +1000 “Jeff Gilbert” <jgilbert@dynamite.com.au > wrote:
Was very interested in the request for a BCC-type design of about 32ft.
There are very few traditional working boat based designs, such as
what we have come to know as the “Pilot Cutters”, in this range.
Most of the designs seem to be pretty close to the famous Bristol
Channel cutter itself at 28 x 10 on deck or else jump right up to the
37ft area, case in point being the next biggest of
Lyle Hess himself
http://www.norseayachts.com/norsea37.html
Roger Dongray and Antonio Dias have both designed 30 footers;
Dongays Cornish Crabber Pilot Cutter 30 is narrower at 9’ 6" so no bigger.
(Not to be confused with the Crabber 30 which is 24 LOD)
http://www.britanniaboats.com/images/C30/30ft.htm
Devlin’s “Hope of Glory” 28 was downsized for a client who thought
“Means of Grace” at 10ft longer was too big to single hand.Its
beautiful, and roomy, photos/drawings:
http://www.devlinboat.com/dchogmog.htm
Another beautiful design that would come close to filling the bill is
Paul Gartside’s 30 x 9’ 11" Gaff Cutter at 18000lb / 600sq ft sail area.
I dont have a web reference. It appears to be the big sister of his
beautiful 20ft Design which is being built ansd marketed in England by
a small independent builder. The boats have been likened to Itchen Ferry.
Wooden Boat has published some detail on these boats recently.However Mark Smaalders does market a beautiful design that fits the bill.
He is fact has a full range, 23,26,29 and the “Kahuna 32”.
You can see photos and good sized drawings of these fabulous boats
http://smaalders.net/yacht_design/
A couple in Australia published an article on how happy they were living aboard
Smaalder’s “Austral 29”, which they built themselves.
Sincerely
Jeff Gilbert
Yesterday I said:
Another beautiful design that would come close to filling the bill is
Paul Gartside’s 30 x 9’ 11" Gaff Cutter at 18000lb / 600sq ft sail area.
I dont have a web reference. It appears to be the big sister of his
beautiful 20ft Design which is being built ansd marketed in England by
a small independent builder. The boats have been likened to Itchen Ferry.
Wooden Boat has published some detail on these boats recently.
Today I was sent this link
http://www.gartsideboats.com/
Jeff Gilbert
OK, here’s one more that seems to be a bit on the rare side. I’ve seen two
of these tied up in Sausalito and asked someone on board to tell me what
kind of boat it was and he just said “Its a Union - something like an Hans
Christian”. But I don’t see too much online info about them.
I now see them referred to Union Polaris Cutter or some similar type name.
Anyhow, here’s one for sale:
The ‘Union Polaris’ looks a lot like a ‘Baba 35’ to me… These were designed by Perry in the seventies (as was this boat, apparently), and were mostly built in the Far East…