Re: Bilge Pumps and The Well of Lost Souls

my boat did not have an electric pump when i bought her.  they say nothing is as effective as a nonswimmer with a bucket.  as i usually singlehand, i need as much pumping capacity as possible while i hunt for the leak's source so i put in a rule 3700.  does not use any electricity unless i turn it on.  i have a diesel tank which ends at the base of the companionway steps.  the pump sits just aft of this.  i have a line tied to it so i can pull it up out of the way when i fish lost parts out of the bilge.  the aft end of my bilge is filled in solid.  i chose not to install an automatic switch for simplicity and reliability.  some people have a mechanical pump belted off the engine for damage control, but that seemed like a lot of effort for a hopefully untouched task.  others have suggested pulling the cooling hose off the seacock.  judging by how long it takes me to get any hose off of anything, the boat would be sunk.  looking at the flow out the exhaust, it doesn't seem like a whole lot of water being moved anyway.
john churchill

Rod Bruckdorfer wrote:

We were wondering what electric pump brand and rating is most commonly used in the BCC's bilge.  Considering the depth of the bilge, a positive displacement pump would be my first choice but the prop shaft may prevent the placement of this type of pump in our BCC's bilge - Sabb engine equipped.  To obtain a reseasonable flow rate from a centrifigual pump, such as a Rule, would require a fairly large pump.  Again fitting a large centrifigual pump may not be possible.  We would like to know how other BCC's owers have met this challenge. Thanks, Rod


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We were wondering what electric pump brand and rating is most commonly used in the BCC's bilge.  Considering the depth of the bilge, a positive displacement pump would be my first choice but the prop shaft may prevent the placement of this type of pump in our BCC's bilge - Sabb engine equipped.  To obtain a reseasonable flow rate from a centrifigual pump, such as a Rule, would require a fairly large pump.  Again fitting a large centrifigual pump may not be possible.  We would like to know how other BCC's owers have met this challenge.
Thanks,
Rod
Rod,
On my bcc I have a Rule 1500 with float switch in the bottom of the bilge under the engine pan. About 12 inches above that pump and aft of the engine pan I have a Rule 3500 with it's own float switch. Above that about I have a high water alarm with it's own float switch. In the aft end of the bilge there is a hose and screen for the cockpit hand bilge pump.
I am also going to install a valve in my raw water intake line with a hose going into the bilge. I will be able to open the valve and use the engine raw water pump to de-water the bilge.
 
Steven Osborne
Crystal Swan II
Hull # 95
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Subject: [bcc] Bilge Pumps and The Well of Lost Souls

We were wondering what electric pump brand and rating is most commonly used in the BCC's bilge.  Considering the depth of the bilge, a positive displacement pump would be my first choice but the prop shaft may prevent the placement of this type of pump in our BCC's bilge - Sabb engine equipped.  To obtain a reseasonable flow rate from a centrifigual pump, such as a Rule, would require a fairly large pump.  Again fitting a large centrifigual pump may not be possible.  We would like to know how other BCC's owers have met this challenge.
Thanks,
Rod


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Rod, you are right about the amount of water the Sabb
(or most any other engine the size of which would be
used in the BCC) being very helpful in dewatering.
There’s also an excellent chance of the intake hose
being fouled and your engine overheading just when you
might need it.

Stan R. hull #22 Waxwing

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Some insurance companies require that a boat be rigged so that the raw water
pump can be used to de-water a leaking vessel.
This can be done by putting a tee in the raw water line with a valve and
hose, with strainer going to the bilge.
This would only be used in an extreme emergency.

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From: “Stan Roeder” <waxwingers@yahoo.com >
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Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [bcc] Bilge Pumps and The Well of Lost Souls

Rod, you are right about the amount of water the Sabb
(or most any other engine the size of which would be
used in the BCC) being very helpful in dewatering.
There’s also an excellent chance of the intake hose
being fouled and your engine overheading just when you
might need it.

Stan R. hull #22 Waxwing

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the yanmar 3GM30F raw water pump only pumps 400 gph at max
john churchill

Stan Roeder wrote:

Rod, you are right about the amount of water the Sabb
(or most any other engine the size of which would be
used in the BCC) being very helpful in dewatering.
There’s also an excellent chance of the intake hose
being fouled and your engine overheading just when you
might need it.

Stan R. hull #22 Waxwing

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Ah, well. Insurance companies.

Some of them also require three people on board if
you’re making an overnight passage. Still others
insist you travel with another boat.

I was turned down once for insurance when I told them
to include the Bahamas in the coverage (I was in
Florida at the time.) They told me a 28 foot sailboat
was too small to go “all the way to the Bahamas”. I
figured there was no point in telling them I had just
finished a cruise from San Francisco to New Orleans
without an engine.

The problem with insurance companies is they rarely
have any real concept of who or what they are
insuring.

Instead of asking the applicant to fill in a
questionaire of what experience they have, I’d like to
visit the would-be ‘insured’ and find out first hand
what they know about their boat, rules of the road,
storm tactics, etc.

Stan R. “Waxwing”

— Steven Osborne <steven.j.osborne@worldnet.att.net >
wrote:

Some insurance companies require that a boat be
rigged so that the raw water
pump can be used to de-water a leaking vessel.
This can be done by putting a tee in the raw water
line with a valve and
hose, with strainer going to the bilge.
This would only be used in an extreme emergency.

----- Original Message -----
From: “Stan Roeder” <waxwingers@yahoo.com >
To: <bcc@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [bcc] Bilge Pumps and The Well of Lost
Souls

Rod, you are right about the amount of water the
Sabb
(or most any other engine the size of which would
be
used in the BCC) being very helpful in dewatering.
There’s also an excellent chance of the intake
hose
being fouled and your engine overheading just when
you
might need it.

Stan R. hull #22 Waxwing

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And that’s still a lot more than my 10pm Sabb.

My best bet would be to rig up a high capacity engine
driven bilge pump but I haven’t gotten to it on the
list as yet. But it has been on there…since 1977.

Stan Roeder “Waxwing”

— jchurchhill <jchurchill@erols.com > wrote:

the yanmar 3GM30F raw water pump only pumps 400 gph
at max
john churchill


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