Re: bilge pumps

We too have the bilge pump on a platform attached to a
long board which drops down behind the engine and
bolts to the rear of the engine drip pan, kind of a
pain in the neck to get to, but this seems to be the
deepest part of the bilge. Not tickled with the Rule
float switch and bilge pump panels, we replaced 3
float switches and one panel in the last two years.

We too have a pace forward of the aft water tank, but
this area is much higher than the current sump aft of
the engine. We still have the stainless steel water
tanks and prefer using the engine sump to avoid
acumulation of water to a level of the bottom of the
water tanks, best to keep the bottom of the water
tanks free of salt water to prevent corrosion.

You’ll like this brain dead idea, someone installed a
nylon mushroom thru-hull fitting in the port bow and a
hose with a ball valve hanging under the head in the
bilge; considering there is a Rule bilge pump switch
panel on the port forward bulkhead to match, I suspect
an one time there was a bilge pump installed to pump
out the bilge under the head/shower sump/chain locker.
Underway to weather the bow tends to bury drawing
water in through the thru-hull fitting thus filling
the forward bilge, guess they didn’t think this one
through, its capped off at present. It’s all part of
the fun of boating…:slight_smile:

Marty Chin, BCC Shamrock


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Grouping Mark and Marty’s responses Scott replies,
Mark,
The only thing I’ve found in the bilge thus so far that wasn’t in the
inventory was a couple quarts of Hudson River water beyond the reach of the
aft bilge pump! Interesting that you had the tanks out and good to know
it’s easily done. I wasn’t tempted to try because they were in such good
shape and now I know why. Regarding Marty’s comment, the reason I put the
Rule pump in front of the aft tank is that it is so accessible there and I
figured that it would be easy to get to if we ever had a bad leak and needed
to clean the strainer or fiddle with the wiring. That aft sump below the
stuffing box is hard to get to, especially underway or with a hot engine to
avoid. I agree that one also wants to have a way to get the last bit of
water out of the bilge and it takes a couple dozen strokes of the Gusher to
clear the remainder after the Rule has done it’s work. Sumio pointed out to
me that it is avery narrow space at the bottom of the sump and one has to
be sure the chosen pump will make it all the way down. The Whale Gusher’s
strum box does that but I still intend to (when I get around to it) put
another electric pump back there as a backup. I will put it on a board or
length of flat stock so that it can be easily lifted out for inspection.
Anyone have suggestion for a way to keep the hose from back-draining a
bucketful after the pump shuts down? A small pump with small diameter hose?
Bigger pump & hose with a check valve? Trade offs, tradeoffs . . . .

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: “Mark Giegel” <epcoinc@frontiernet.net >
To: <bcc@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [bcc] Re: bilge pump relocation

Scott, I missed the earlier post. I have had the tanks out on your boat
to
clean them out. All the flooring over the tanks including the aft tank
come
up. The aft floor section which I believe protrudes into the engine
compartment, merely covers the top of the aft tank.

The aft tank is held in position by wood screws on the forward and aft
flanges of the tank. It can be taken out without too much difficulty. I
did recover most of the “treasurers” out of the bilge on one off my many
forays to find the last molecule of debris which may have fallen into the
abyss.

If you happen to find anything of value should you venture to look I would
have to claim it if it was not indicated on the inventory list at time of
purchase (just kidding)
Best to you
Mark Giegel
formerly of Itchen
Epco Products Inc.
----- Original Message -----
From: “Marty Chin” <marty_chin@yahoo.com >
To: <bcc@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 5:33 PM
Subject: [bcc] Re: bilge pumps

We too have the bilge pump on a platform attached to a
long board which drops down behind the engine and
bolts to the rear of the engine drip pan, kind of a
pain in the neck to get to, but this seems to be the
deepest part of the bilge. Not tickled with the Rule
float switch and bilge pump panels, we replaced 3
float switches and one panel in the last two years.

We too have a pace forward of the aft water tank, but
this area is much higher than the current sump aft of
the engine. We still have the stainless steel water
tanks and prefer using the engine sump to avoid
acumulation of water to a level of the bottom of the
water tanks, best to keep the bottom of the water
tanks free of salt water to prevent corrosion.

You’ll like this brain dead idea, someone installed a
nylon mushroom thru-hull fitting in the port bow and a
hose with a ball valve hanging under the head in the
bilge; considering there is a Rule bilge pump switch
panel on the port forward bulkhead to match, I suspect
an one time there was a bilge pump installed to pump
out the bilge under the head/shower sump/chain locker.
Underway to weather the bow tends to bury drawing
water in through the thru-hull fitting thus filling
the forward bilge, guess they didn’t think this one
through, its capped off at present. It’s all part of
the fun of boating…:slight_smile:

Marty Chin, BCC Shamrock